In this episode of the Geared for Growth podcast, host Mike Mortlock sits down with property research veteran Terry Ryder — the founder of Hotspotting and a respected voice in Australian real estate since the 1980s.

With decades of experience cutting through the noise, Terry brings a sharp lens to the current landscape: from the media’s obsession with interest rates to the real dynamics driving growth in regional and outer capital city markets.

Terry unpacks the idea that the market is far more nuanced than headlines suggest. Yes, interest rates matter — but they’re just one piece of the puzzle. What’s often overlooked? Local economies, infrastructure pipelines, and buyer demand.

From Perth’s ongoing investor appeal to the quietly rising markets of Darwin and regional centres like Wagga Wagga, Terry shares what he sees in the data and why the “second wind” phenomenon is becoming a powerful investment trend.

Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just trying to make sense of mixed messages in the market, this episode will help you tune out the hype and focus on what actually matters.

What we cover in this episode:
– Why media narratives often miss the real story in real estate
– How Melbourne is slowly bouncing back — and why
– What “Perthification” means and why it’s not going away
– The role buyers agents play in shaping local market dynamics
– Where to look for “second wind” investment opportunities
– Why affordability and lifestyle are the new power combo
– How data can forecast market shifts before they hit the headlines
– What investors should actually be watching in 2025

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